I appreciate your comments and contributions to Glacier National Park (US). It's not easy to see things that need correcting unless a fresh set of eyes look things over. Thanks again.--MONGO 11:08, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
I've made more changes to the article, removing redundant "in the park" comments and a fairly large reduction and wording in the intro. Leave comment there if you agree with the changes or see more enhancements are needed...thanks.--MONGO 06:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Robth, thank you for your advice on the alcibiades article, and editing and writing on wikipedia in general. I am still very new to the editing of wiki articles, but i've been a long time reader. I will certainly keep your advice in mind as i continue to edit the article. please understand it is very much a work in progress, and any assistance you can provide is welcome and appreciated as i am having a little trouble getting used to the format used in these articles. I'm not even sure if this is the right area to reply to your comments, but i'm sure at some point you will read this. please also see my response to your explanation of your edits on the wiki talk page for the alci article. take care, dmcheatw.
You sent me a message regarding removing information from a wiki page I'd never even visited (John O'Shea or something). I was wondering what was up with that? If it was an IP address thing, I think my ISP might issue dynamic IPs or something, because I can't think of any other reason that might have happened and I know at least one of my local broadband ISPs does (I don't know who my current service provider is, since I don't pay the bill). It could have been another user on my home network, but I don't think any of them are likely to have even ehard of Wikipedia, much less visit it regularly.
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Will you help me get this to featured status?? --☁SX 09:19, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
You should have heard me laughing when I saw someone edit an article on "myself" (at first I assumed it was a creation of the vandal who had been following me around). While it's a long time ago I'm pretty sure I got the name from Thucydides or Xenophon, both of whom I was reading at the time ... I know a little more about the place, but not much. There's some coins from there which are prized, and it is the seat/name of a contemporary archdiocese. I've been using it as an online name for about ten years. Thanks for starting the article! Happy editing, Antandrus (talk) 14:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for reverting your (well-used) blanking (if you noticed)! The "edit conflict" page doesn't give edit summaries, I'm afraid. Is there anything we can do to get students to stop posting messages to each other through this article? See this disgusting diff for an example. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 (T | C | @) 05:26, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for looking at my edits of the Child suicide bombers in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict
Actually I was frustrated and decided to leave this article for good. but you comments encouraged me.
But as tried to edit again, and I made a on line edit, cited and well resourced, I faced the same tatic. i was RV twice by moshe, then his friends appeared and RV me again. The same tacktic used with me days ago.
I'ld appreciate if you have a look at the recent talk.
Thanks --Thameen 19:04, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the comments! I've responded to them here. Kirill Lokshin 03:57, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
I noticed the transwiki of s:Seventy-two resolutions over at Wikisource. The history was not transfered to the talk page, and also there is no entry in s:Wikisource:Transwiki log. You might want to read m:Transwiki if you are not sure of the procedure in this regard. Thanks for the work in moving this over.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 23:01, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I noticed that it's been over a month since Pearle made a full sweep of changing ((cleanup)) tags to ((cleanup-date)). She(?) has been doing the normal runs of changing ((wikify)) to ((wikify-date)), and has changed a few cleanup tags, but hasn't gone through and done a full run. I just wanted to know if there was some reason for this. Thanks, --RobthTalk 17:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Robth. I'm intrigued by the citation spot checks you've been performing at WP:FAC. Just curious: Do you only check source citations on articles that are primarily referenced from web sources, or do you try to track down print sources, too? — BrianSmithson 18:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I didn't notice your comment on my talk until now (someone else posted after you; I'm not used to more than one at a time :-)). I do go after print sources; I have a very good library collection at my disposal, which is what gave me the idea in the first place. Of the three reviews I've done so far, only one has been print heavy; I've actually been surprised how much some FA noms rely on web sources; I guess the ones I usually comment on tend to be on subjects that tend more towards print sourcing. If I keep this project up over the long term, it may be interesting to see whether there's a correlation between number of errors and type of sources used, or something of that sort. --RobthTalk 04:59, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Robth, thank you for your review of the Talbot Tagora article. I have corrected the references basing on your comments, and it indeed required a fair amount of work. I would be glad to know whether this part of your objection can be voided now. As concerns the other part of your objection ("this needs a copyedit"), could you please be more specific so that the deficiencies of the article could be removed? Reviewers who have pointed towards editorial problems previously were kind enough to indicate them exactly and even suggested the way to improve them, not to mention some of them being bold enough to correct them themselves. Thank you in advance for your kind cooperation, Bravada, talk - 23:31, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Regarding your comment on the NHL page for Brian McFarlene's History of Hockey not matching with the ISBN. For me the ISBN matches. See [1]. I have also added page numbers for the notes that refer to the book, and fixed the other reference. Can you please take a look. -- Jeff3000 00:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
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You're right; I was pretty much thinking the same thing about the conversation needing to go someplace else. I've added an email to my account; as long as you're not totally sick of the discussion by this point, I'd still value your further thoughts. -- Lee Bailey(talk) 02:29, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Robth, thanks for performing the citations check. I was wondering if you could give me any advice on what to improve on in terms of the article's prose. I have used a number of guides/articles in an attempt to make it of a high quality nature, but if you could kind of steer me in the right direction so to speak to bring the article up to a better quality? Cvene64 02:24, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Mea culpa. You're exactly right. Rebecca 04:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi - thanks for your review! I've fixed the citation issues. On the two points in which you felt the wording was stronger than the source, I have to disagree but I've picked up an alternative source. This Fire Burns.....Always 17:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I've added a citation to the "Characters and plot" section of Excel Saga. This one is to an episode guide published in Newtype USA, one of the major anime magazines in the U.S. Combined with the recent copy-edits, perhaps you might consider supporting its FAC? Regards -- Monocrat 04:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I fixed your issues with the Enta Da Stage FAC, but don't know where the other citations you wanted are. Could you please tag them with ((fact))?
As for the "critically similar" text, I don't know if it's possible to source this, especially given the lack of information available on this album. A quick perusing of AMG reveals that they all have 4.5/5 or 5/5 scores, but I don't know how to go around properly sourcing this. 69.116.150.174 18:44, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey Robth, just checking in with you on the status of the bot; Rob approved a one week trial on the 1st, and I'm doing follow up and asking everyone with a currently active trial to give us a report back on how things are going. If you could drop a note on the progress at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approvals#Robthbot in the next couple days, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Essjay (Talk • Connect) 08:13, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the input and for the props. As for the fair use, I don't really give a shit, I'm not much of a stickler for the strict little policies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PDTantisocial (talk • contribs)
It's nice to see somebody doing that! I've tended to restrict my article reviewing activities to WP:GAN and WP:FLC but I've been doing the same and I've often been left startled - websites to anecdotes relating to the point in question but not actually backing up any of the "facts" stated, or facts which are just overgeneralizations, references which are obviously unreliable sources, all kinds of rubbish! And unfortunately it makes the article look - at first sight - very thoroughly referenced, supported and reliable. I'd hoped that greater use of footnotes would make our articles more trustworthy (I've always been suspicious, for instance, of de:'s almost complete lack of footnotes, and a tendency just to list a whole bunch of thick books at the bottom as references so nobody can tell which fact came from where!) but even now it's very much a case of caveat lector and not allowing yourself to be lulled into a false sense of security. Hopefully the more people crack down on it, the better behaved people will be. One thing I have found disturbing is the number of editors who confirm they add page numbers to paper references using booksight and similar - it shows that a lot of writers didn't actually read in full the prime reference texts that they are citing! That's at least a little worrying ... anyway, hope all is well - I enjoyed working with you on Image:Lechaeum.png so if you've got any similar requests just throw them my way! TheGrappler 01:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Dear Robth, I am seeking your advice and input regarding the article Eurovision Song Contest. I nominated it as a Featured Article, but it failed - see the page here. Many of the objections arose because there were not enough sources, or they were not properly cited.
I have now gone through the article thoroughly, and along with a few tweaks here and there, I have added many more references. I even bought a hard-copy book in order to ensure that some facts had been published, before citing it as a source.
Now I would like to ask you a favour, as one of the people who objected to the original nomination. Could you please take another look at the article, and let me know if, in your opinion, it looks better - and now up to Featured standard with regards to source citations? I do realise that most of the sources are online ones: unfortunately there has been surprisingly little published in hard-copy about the history of the Eurovision Song Contest, and most of the information that I know myself comes from having simply lived and breathed Eurovision for the past 14 years - attending the Contests, and experiencing the events, stories and rule changes as they have happened. If I could get more "hard copy" to verify this then I would, but it doesn't seem to be out there. It is, however, online. Therefore I have formatted all my web citation templates as best I can.
I am seeking to re-nominate this as a FA. However, before I do so I would value your input, as a former objector. Thank you :) EuroSong talk 03:59, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for check, it uncovered some hidden errors I had either missed (or made) along the way. You can find comments here. In relation to the Serebii comment, while it is not that grammatically awesome, it is the most reliable Pokémon site on the whole internet. Highway Return to Oz... 20:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi. All your concerns were dealt with. Please continue...:NikoSilver: 22:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
I fixed the 4 refs, I think, in the Selena FAC, please review. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 05:47, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
All refs look fixed to me, I rechecked them and no other concerns are found, if you see any tell me. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 21:13, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
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Robth, Sorry I missed you. As per your comments on changing outdated tags, you are correct. Many articles are written poorly. I can claim that some of my articles need citations, etc. None the less, the general cleanup allows the author(s) to linger. Generally 1 year with a cleanup tag is quite bad. If no one is cleaning, then no one is watching nor maintaining. Hence, as Eric Raymon reminds us, it's not worth much. As such, I'm reverting slowly. If you are near by, talk - I'll stop and listen to suggestions. meatclerk 05:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Robth, Thanks for your comments. I see your point in the context you describe - it makes sense. However, leaving older articles to sit makes no sense, especially if I can't fix them. Little's theorem says we can measure the efficiency. If more queues are available, silly as it seem, more people will arrive to fix them. Basically, if you can identify the problem, an expert will show up. Wikipedia has many, many groups organized to work in specific areas and specific problems, hence all the special tags. Yes, ID all general cleanup early, just as you suggest, but also tackle the toughest.
The Jay Ryan I mentioned was more than two years in the queue. I decided to take a whack at it. I got 4 Speedy Del tags before I could ID the three Jay Ryans now there. The revert incident prompted me to take a 3 hours lunch (it's my day off). When I returned someone was kind enough to fix the whole thing, with disambig. The incident was painful and I don't recommend it to anyone. I cried FUD midway through. Lesson learned. --meatclerk 04:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
I should also point out that retagging an article does not mean I will only do that. I do check back on progress. If nothing is happening, I can take other actions. Like finding references, putting them in the talk page, but not writing the article. I will even organize a talkpage like MSG. I can see the problems, but know I can't time to fix it YET. If I organize new information, someone will come along and do the work. If not, I might get to it, or at least fix or edit the current article. Especially if there are references. --meatclerk 04:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your last message. I've taken your advice to heart and cleaned up, merged and other various tasks. I don't think the system is clear to many editors. Some cleanup tags I've noted have been just placed and never tended to. Some tags should have been removed. Many just reclassified when the changes are made. Another month of this and I could write seven steps to cleaning up a cleanup tag.
For now, my own articles are suffering neglect, that and my boss has put me on five days a week, so more writing and 2 backlogged articles a night, at most.
BTW, I'm working on an article about Monterey Clippers, a local type of fishing boat. Tell me what you think. I took the images myself. meatclerk 06:42, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you so much! RyanGerbil10(The people rejoice!) 03:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
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Hey, you were the only active commentor on Ketuanan Melayu's peer review, so I thought I'd let you know that I've finally put it on FAC. I know you're busy at the moment, but if you have some free time, it wouldn't hurt to go over the article again to see if there's anything major we can fix. Your comments at the peer review were really helpful. Thanks! Johnleemk | Talk 14:48, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you for all the work you've done and you are doing. But I still believe that Sepentrionalis crossed the line, when he added the clean-up tag and changed his objection to strong objection without justification. I'm also frustrated, because he did that after I sincerely thanked him for his contributions, something that he misinterpreted. In any case, I thank you once again for all your contributions and your great eagerness to improve the article.--Yannismarou 14:58, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
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Excellent writing you've been doing so far, congratulations on getting your most recent article, Corinthian War, to FA status. Oberiko 13:50, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. To be honest, I was skeptical it would pass FAC. I'm really glad we managed to get it through, even though I still regret that I couldn't prune more. I'm still wondering if there's any fat we can trim...but still, thanks for the note, and thanks for all your work during the peer review. Johnleemk | Talk 11:02, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
It's good to hear from you again! If you wanted to help with WP:CP in little ways, it would be useful to remove red links (that were deleted for other reasons). Also, if the comments indicate that the copyvio was dealt with (e.g. it's struck through and someone says they removed the copyvio part of the article), then you can delete those too. Thanks for offering! – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 12:33, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for rephrasing the sentence it helped a lot, can you find a sutibale image for it please? Abdullah Geelah 17:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. I've voted on it. -Elmer Clark 18:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
You're not an admin. I'm thinking of nominating you. Would you object? – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 18:35, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Alright, glad to hear it! I've nominated you at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. You'll need to officially accept the nomination, and fill out answers to the questions. Good luck! – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 13:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
I notice that you have removed this from the copyvio queue. By simply reverting you have left the copyvio material in the History, keeping it available. In my view the copyright material needs deleting from history. I should welcome your views before I restore it to the queue. BlueValour 16:36, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I appreciate your interest in clearing up the article, and it does still need some research but the tombstone itself is historic. It was one of thrity-six restored by the Rockefellers. Additionally, Syboat was a prominent member of the small but influential community of Sleepy Hollow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by James Russiello (talk • contribs)
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Use the new tools wisely to help out where you can. But especially at first use them conservativley and re-read the relevant policies before acting. As you get the hang of them, dig in and help out with the backlogs. Have fun helping to make this a better place and again, congrats. - Taxman Talk 20:08, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations and good luck with your new role!
Thanks for your contributions to Alcibiades. I'm just a bit concerned about the current length of the lead. I'd grateful, if you could have a look at the rest of the article. If and when you can! After all, I intend to ask for another review by the military project.
My congradulations once again!--Yannismarou 06:11, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations on your promotion, and you're quite welcome! --Merovingian - Talk 03:49, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
My congratulations too, and you'll do a fine job! BaseballBaby 04:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
My pleasure, and congratulations! Jayjg (talk) 04:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
All the best with your new responsibilities! — riana_dzasta wreak havoc|damage report 04:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes best of luck, and thanks for the belated thanks; it was my pleasure to support! Batmanand | Talk 09:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Are you sure, that is was I who removed the ((copyvio)) tag? Nevertheless author most likely was a guy from the van leer website eitherway... --Jestix 17:46, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
And thanks for your thanks. --Guinnog 04:29, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
My congratulations, it's really great to know there will be an admin with a strong classical expertise. And thanks for your very nice words.--Aldux 21:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Wow! I don't think you need much help!! You've already done all the work! But I'll see if I can add something. My Greek bibliography about Theramenes is not so rich, but I'll have a look.
At the moment, I'm also stuck with Demosthenes and Alcibiades, I want to finish; and Aspasia I've nominated for FA (but hasn't earned much attention! I'm getting asleep!!). And I've also initiated a Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Greece, which seems a bit frozen without my "pushing"!
But I'll keep an eye on Theramenes, because it is reallt such an interesting an ambiguous figure.--Yannismarou 08:04, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Why did you destroy the Bill Winter page? It was redone without any copyright problems and you thrashed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.162.143.5 (talk • contribs)
Sorry about that. I fixed the mistakes. Kyriakos 07:30, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi there and congratulations on your brand new sysop flag. Now that you are an admin, you might want to help the community in a way you weren't able to before. The obvious example is clearing out the Category:Administrative backlog :-) You might want to start with Wikipedia:Requested moves which I find the easiest to deal with. If you have any questions, just drop me a note! Enjoy! :-) --Dijxtra 09:05, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi! Reading Paparrigopoulos-Karolidis about Theramenes, I saw they insist on Aristotle's version of his sentence to death and execution. I donot know if this version is regarded as credible by contemporary scholars. You'll see I edited an inline citation and a note based on Aristotle's version. If you think they are redundant, do not hesitate to change or even remove these edits. Thanks for the tweaks in Aspasia. Regards!--Yannismarou 16:21, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
My friend, your belated thanks could not have come at a better time...just when I needed a reminder of why I still bother to logon here. Now I owe you my thanks. So cheers and here's to admins who are great writers and to making obscure ancient generals less obscure;>--R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) 17:58, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Hello Robth.
Plowing through that backlog takes some time. To be honest, I cheat a little. I pull up the Wikipedia page in question, and check to see if it has a temp-replacement page or a discussion page. If so, I need to look more thoroughly, but if not, I just look at the page's history. Often, there will be a single IP editor or redlinked user who made the page, and then a well-respected admin who marked it as a copyvio. (Sometimes inbetween there'll be a user who just tagged in ((Wikify)) or ((Ad)) or whatever, but that's fine; I'm looking for cases where the entire article was made by an anon in one fell swoop, and then tagged copyvio without any meaningful edits.) In these cases, I don't even bother to look at the page it's supposedly copied from. Over 99% of the time, these cases will be copyvios, and among the ones that aren't, 99% of them will be not articles worth keeping - they would just be moved over to WP:AFD to take up other people's time there. In those few cases where I make a mistake and delete a valid article (an article worth keeping, that was made in a single edit by an anon, and that was mistagged as a copyvio by a respected admin), then the creater will usually contact me and complain, in which case I investigate, apologize, and restore. No biggie. But it saves tons of time this way. YMMV. I'm not saying you should take this shortcut; I'm just telling you what I do.
About "claims to be the author" pages and images: as I understand it, when permissions(at)wikimedia(dot)org gets a verification e-mail, they leave a template on the talk page. I'm not really sure how the process works, though, and a brief look around the help pages doesn't give me any good info on this. I've usually ignored that section, to be honest. You might want to contact some of the folks at the Wikimedia Communications Committee (who get the permissions@Wikimedia emails). Some of the members are User:Mindspillage, User:Michael_Snow, and User:UninvitedCompany. I would personally delete any if a month goes by without WCC getting an e-mail.
All the best, – Quadell (talk) (random) 12:50, 21 September 2006 (UTC)