Hi Postmodern Beatnik. Regarding the links to desire utilitarianism, I don't really have anything to say in their defence, except that if the article itself stays, then there should at least be a link in the "See also" section of Utilitarianism. I'm happy for you to remove the links from the other articles if you think they are unwarranted. - Borofkin 01:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, a normal TFD lasts seven days; this one was given a full two weeks, and at one point, they just need to be closed. There was no consensus to go one way or the other, so I could not close as "keep", nor as "delete", and a particular TFD is not the place to make a decision about several templates or try to change a policy/guideline. Those should be done elsewhere, outside the deletion process. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 23:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I have commenced deletion proceedings at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Desire utilitarianism Banno 21:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC) Perhaps you might vote? Banno 21:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Beatnik. You removed the Dr. Cornel West quote on Nihilism from the Nihilism article -- without discussion. Although Dr. West is a controversial figure in some quarters, he is still a scholar and professor from Princeton U. I tried to figure out where to put the quote in the article and tried the best fit. Do you think his statement does not fit anywhere ? It was rather unique in its point of view. Any ideas ? Thanks. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 13:02, 3 June 2007 (UTC) (talk)
You lamented a lack of proper defense for opposition to spoilers. I have three points that you may or may not find valid.
Your thoughts? Vassyana 21:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
A second debater at Wikipedia talk:Spoiler [1] has (unknowingly) raised the classic conservative/owning class objection to 'speaking for others'.
"These "young people" whom you mention. Are they aware they've appointed you their spokesman?"
It's an anti-organizing philosophy and I can deal with it on that level (Right to Organize, Universal Declaration of Human Rights). However, I'd appreciate your analysis of what kind of fallacy it is, if it is one. (Please reply here) Milo 20:11, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Dear Postmodern Beatnik
My name is Jim Sutton and I'm undertaking research in the School of Library, Archive, and Information Studies, UCL.
My research involves studying wiki usage, the reasons why individuals use wikis and the benefits/disadvantages of using wikis to manage knowledge.
I noticed a contribution of yours to the article on wikis and I was wondering if you would agree to my analysing your contributions to Wikipedia. This will basically involve calculating how many times you've contributed to Wikipedia within the time period of a week.
I was also wondering what your reasons are for using/contributing to Wikipedia. I'd be extremely grateful for any feedback you can provide.
If you agree to my analysing your contributions and can provide any feedback as to why you contribute to Wikipedia I’d be very grateful. My email address is james.sutton (at) ucl.ac.uk and can be emailed at this address if you agree and have any feedback or questions.
I also have a survey online which I'm using as part of my research at:
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My Wikipedia username is Sutton4019 and my research is being carried out jointly with Melissa Terras at UCL. Her email address is m.terras (at) ucl.ac.uk .
If you have any questions please let me know and thank you for your time. Thanks! --Sutton4019 09:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Your comment is quite valid, and had I the time, I would do so. Banno 10:45, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I already responded to your message on the Hume Talk Page before I realized you had deleted the link I had added. I fully intend to put that link back. I will wait a day or 3 before I do so. I would like to remind you that the Hume article is about Hume the man AND Hume the historical figure. DO you intend to erase all references to his racist remarks ?? Think about it. Wikipedia is more than just an encylopedia it is a social experiment. Albion moonlight 10:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I too appreciate the fact that you are willing to be reasonable. I read your most recent comments on the Hume talk page. There is no need for the Morton link now. I am glad I found a more apt replacement for it. Albion moonlight 07:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I know nothing about your field, probably never will, and not trying to be insulting, I don't care about your field. Editing the anti-science article in a manner to indicate that he dislikes science, not editing to tell a story, which would be fine. And implying that misdiagnosing ADHD indicates all medicine sucks is just bad logic. Most ADHD prescriptions are from frantic parents whose parenting skills are bad trying to get little Johnny or Suzy to be better children. Most medicine cures patients. High blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, diabetes II, and many other diseases have been treated effectively with modern medicine. It is junk science. It qualifies under the title of junk science. It meets the standards of junk science. Logically, I can call it junk science. Cruft was for some really bad writing, which had nothing to do with POV. I don't cruft in any article. I have an MPOV here. Medical POV. And yeah, I'm completely sure that keeping people who are dying of malaria away from common treatments by diluting the malarial drugs to <1 molecule per volume of water will kill the patient, but withholding appropriate treatments. So Homeopathy kills. There, I'm done. Orangemarlin 17:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi PB (by the way, cool name). I moved the conversation here, because I get so many drive by shootings and genuine discourse at my user page that I missed your comments. I'm glad you weren't insulted, because philosophy makes my brain fry. I like 1 + 1 = 2 thinking, and philosophy is more like 1 + 1 = something, but it depends upon how you might examine the question. Actually, I can fake a lot of things, but I cannot even begin to fake philosophy! I think we're in agreement on your first two paragraphs. Editing an article is one thing (I edit Creationism articles, which is about the farthest thing from my belief set ever). But editing in support of it (anti-science) is fine, but then I dismiss anything science that comes out of your mouth. That's why I have no respect for certain editor's comments about Homeopathy or any other quack medicine (sorry, can't help myself).
As for junk science, it really is a pejorative term. The wiki article on it claims its used in a political context, which it is. People on the left or right use it to meet their standards. Global warming is an example where both sides claim the other is using junk science. The better term is pseudoscience. The US National Academy of Sciences, a prestigious and select group of scientists, has proclaimed a number of "scientific theories" as pseudoscience. Back to Creationism, they claim that is pseudoscience (not whether you have faith in it, just the science to prove it). Many authors have stated that Homeopathy is pseudoscience (though I use the highly pejorative, and probably POV "junk science" verbiage). The pseudoscience article here on Wiki is actually pretty well written (and since you are into philosophy, it really is a result of the philosophy of science). There are certain standards that qualify something as pseudoscience:
So, unless I'm missing something, this is a pseudoscience. For clarity sake, I will refrain from the use of junk science. Orangemarlin 20:29, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
You had asked about the value of tagging those philosophy articles. I have been working on getting things ready for a bot to go out and tag every article in certain categories. All of this is for the purpose of assessment. Data is collected from all tagged articles every three days. You can see the results at Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy/Assessment. This process produces a worklist of articles in the task force area. You can see advanced forms of this at WikiProject:Military History, and WikiProject Mathematics. I really don't think in terms of "task forces" that language came along with the format. I just am interested in the tools available, and the closer focus that is possible with these "task forces."
Also, it makes further analysis possible. I would like to see a list of most common blue links in each category. As well as collecting redlinks. There is no end to the possible analysis. The issue could use some input over at WP:PHIL Be well, Gregbard 15:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
{ahem} Not to get snooty, but try looking at courses taught by schools that excel in British Empiricism. I suspect you'll find Bacon there (though syllabi can be misleading). And just to clarify, I don't think you need to learn about Bacon to understand the scientific method. I was just mentioning it by way of suggesting how important he is historically. I stand firm on the point about Locke, Berkeley, and Hume, however. Perhaps you do not need to understand Bacon to understand Empiricism in a "good enough" way, but to really understand the issues and motivations behind later Brits, you're going to need to understand how it all started. You may be able to understand contractualism without reading Hobbes, but you won't really get it (or why later contractualists felt compelled to address some rather odd issues) unless you read his version (as well as the criticisms of contractualism by Hume--but now I'm just demanding perfection). Postmodern Beatnik 03:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
A long-time WP:COI, tendentious editor at Space music has claimed a logical fallacy that I can't grasp from the way he has described it.
• Here's the diff of his first edit of this claim, "These early uses of the term were largely limited to the artists who applied it to their own music.".
• Here's the SpM history page. Note the arguments in edit summary comments by another editor.
• Here's his #Logical_fallacy claim on the talk page and my response. Note that he took my point and changed the dates in the analogy to "1916". Ignore the back-and-forth after the first two posts.
• The key to his thinking seems to be "After 1973 the number of sources increases, because usage of the term increased - NOT vice versa." I don't recall any vice versa related to the edit summaries.
Can you help me sort this out? Milo 10:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
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Cross-posted from my talk:
To your latest question:
Hello. Thanks for reporting 213.16.181.166 (talk · contribs) to WP:AIV. Generally we decline to block IPs with zero preexisting warnings, however in light of their 40-odd rapid recats, I went ahead and issued a fifteen minute block. --Kralizec! (talk) 17:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
So, I vote that you add some HPS type material to the metalogic article. Thanks :-) Pete St.John (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 19:44, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I didn't remove the reference. It may look like I did because I added some lines before it. –Pomte 20:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I saw your reasonable response on my question about the spoiler template, before that discussion went crazy. Can you elaborate some? --AW (talk) 06:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I see you undid my deletion of two categories (atheists philosophers, Scottish atheists) from the David Hume page. Do you seriously hold the view that Hume was an atheist? Secondly, and more importantly, can you name (say) two serious scholars of early modern philosophy that hold that view? Prof grizzlebizzle (talk) 02:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Hume and Kierkegaard nicely sum up my own view on the question of theism versus atheism, and insofar as I see myself in precisely the same position as Hume (philosophically agnostic, but personally lacking faith) I see us as both atheists in an important and relevant sense. Postmodern Beatnik (talk) 17:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)The conviction of the religionists, in all ages, is more affected than real... Men dare not avow, even to their own hearts, the doubts which they entertain on such subjects: they make a merit of implicit faith; and disguise to themselves their real infidelity.
Thank you very much for the barnstar! But just as importantly, thank you for your excellent suggestions and input in helping us whittle down the choices. Without you, we never would've been able to do it as quickly, efficiently or effectively as we managed to. --Hemlock Martinis (talk) 16:44, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for explaining the strikethrough convention, I had not seen that used before and while I've browsed many articles and talk pages I am newbie enough to have missed this. It still might be good at some later point to mutually delete some chunks of our conversations that were based on mutual misundestandings, as I hate cluttering up discussions with dated material. But this makes more sense for now. Thanks for restoring the material for now and for your patience.--ScottForschler (talk) 13:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Je vous prie de lire ce que j'ai écrit sur Mickiewicz. J'espére que vous y penserez bien. --85.221.187.131 (talk) 14:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
As the GAR reviewer, I am informing you that David Hume, an article that you worked on, was delisted in GA sweeps process. My suggestions are available on the GAR page. Hope they are useful for article improvement.--Redtigerxyz Talk 06:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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