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Hi, I noticed that at MOS:CREDENTIALS there is a link to Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(clergy) but Judaism is not there and there is a link to Hebrew naming convention, but that doesn't mention clergy. I am thinking of putting together a guideline page. Do you have any thoughts? My thinking is to make it simple. (And FTR, even MOS:CREDENTIAL says if the person is known by the credential, to use the credential, so we do have to take that into account.) I would propose using "Rabbi" or similar, the first time the person is mentioned in an article, and then the last name from then on out, unless the person is exclusively known by "Rabbi" in which case MOS:CREDENTIAL and other policies state to use "Rabbi" as part of the name. Sir Joseph (talk) 16:29, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Sir Joseph,I'm a bit baffled now. I've very clearly explained and demonstrated in our discussion above why I "have a big problem with creating a Jewish guideline". Not only that, you have suddenly started claiming that Feinstein was "widely known as R' Moshe", when I've just shown that he was "widely known" as "Rav Moshe", "Rabbi Moshe Feinstein", "Rabbi Feinstein", "Reb Moshe", "Moshe Feinstein", and "Feinstein". In fact, the most reliable (i.e. scholarly) sources generally refer to him by the last two. As for "rabbi" not being a "credential", it is a designation awarded after a somewhat lengthy and sometimes difficult period of formal study; it's certainly not an honorary or hierarchical designation such as "bishop". As for your final suggestion, "the first time we introduce someone, it should have the title, and then perhaps further mentions we can skip the rabbinical title", isn't that what MOS:CREDENTIAL already says? Jayjg (talk) 15:46, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks for correcting all those mistakes I made and explaining to me what I did incorrectly! Bgrus22 (talk) 22:09, 12 August 2020 (UTC) |
@Bgrus22:, thank you! Jayjg (talk) 14:02, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Apologies for my late follow-up. I've been trying to find a sense in what we put into infoboxes and only after I made the edit have I realized that military infoboxes do not conform to the same standards as regular ones (e.g. the lack of 'nationality' field). I think at some point we should attempt aligning these, but I don't have the bandwidth to pilot a larger discussion on the topic at the moment. Pundit|utter 09:07, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
@jayjg You sent me this comment: @Odelphi:, I noticed that you been changing the words in a number of quotations (e.g [1][2][3]). Are you looking at the sources, and finding they have been transcribed incorrectly? Or are you merely improving on the grammar of a quotation, regardless of what the author writes? Or something else? Jayjg (talk) 19:04, 19 August 2020 (UTC) @Odelphi:, you continue to change quotations (e.g [4]). Can you explain what your source is for the change? Jayjg (talk) 21:37, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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I loved your solid questions asking the legitimacy of the "one millions Arabs fingernail" non sense. Great Work. Keep it up. SamMontana (talk) 07:49, 23 August 2020 (UTC) |
The articles you reference were "rough" translations into English. One from Italian, one from Spanish. All I did was try to improve the translation. I did not change the quote from the original, I sought to improve the translation of the quote. As you know, anytime a language is translated you lose something in the translation. Even real-time translation (ie. the U.N) you lose a little bit of the original meaning/context in the original language. I tried to keep as much of the context of the original quotes as possible. I referenced the original article in the original language to make my translation improvements. The original translation had very bad grammar and English word usage. It was obvious, it was translated by someone without a full understanding of English grammar and word usage. I hope I did a good job with the understanding that all translations lose a little bit of the original meaning/context. Odelphi (talk) 17:10, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
I believe Wikipedia can be used to attract people to certain places. There is certainly more information available so that it can become notable. There certainly have been cases somewhere where a Wikipedia article on a location has made it more famous and there certainly will be in the future if there aren't any already. This building is well established, and has had a renovation as well as an elevator modernization. The triangle shape is also probably helping. I believe there are articles on Wikipedia that are of subjects that by itself aren't notable but with grouping can be. There are also red links that should turn blue. I believe that red links should be eliminated when possible. Overall, I think Wikipedia should start reevaluating article deletions after it's been long enough. How long will be subject to a lot of debate. For me, 2 or 3 years would work. User:QuarioQuario54321 (talk) 13:57, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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Good morning, Jayjg. I'd like to review a previously deleted article, Alpha Pi Sigma, about a Latina sorority whose article had been removed on a mixed vote over notability or a "lack of secondary sources" back in 2011 and 2012. You were one of two admins to delete the page, which occurred twice. (The other admin is no longer active in that role.)
Additional good sources pertaining to this group have cropped up, and I'd like to see what had previously been written in order to perhaps use some of the content. I'm circling through the NALFO organizations to clean up those with existing pages, and repair/improve those that had been deleted, where I can. Thank you. Jax MN (talk) 13:45, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
You might be the creator of WP:ANI, I can recognize you for that, Just like how Kaldari was the creator of The Wikipedia Teahouse. LooneyTraceYT (Where it never goes out of style • contribs) 23:04, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
...you have been sorely missed. Chesdovi (talk) 21:03, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Great to have you back, Jayjg! El_C 23:43, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
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Perhaps you are correct, stricto sensu, so no objections. I wrote 'modern' thinking of the source's frequent use of 'new' (and also of the slightly later European debate of the 'ancients versus the moderns') Schama more broadly is describing a distinct revolution that involved a new metaphysics, an innovative client-city state model, with industrializing energies in textiles etc., that took place with the strengthening of Safed's kabbalistic culture. That sounded to me quite modernizing within that part of the world. Still, as the copyeditors write, stet.Nishidani (talk) 16:16, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Now they are retaliating in anti-Croat edits. Removing a Pogrom linked to an article that defines it as a Pogrom. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pogrom&action=history OyMosby (talk) 17:44, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Jayjg, I noticed you reverted some of the See Also links I posted. Mandaeans have a strong connection to Second Temple Judaism and have many things in common such as ethics, angelogy etc. Most scholars believe Mandaeans are of Judean origin including the Mandaeans themselves according to their scripture. Cheers, Mcvti (talk) 17:30, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
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If you are going to reply to an archive, Ill reply here. Menetrez's column is not an article in CounterPunch. What is cited is in a book published by University of California Press. That is what David removed. The idea that Menetrez's critique of the situation isnt notable is a, irrelevant (it only matters if it has weight, not if it is notable), and incorrect. Menetrez's analysis itself is covered in other sources, it is itself a reliable source, and being a red linked biography doesnt really change that. I dont really understand how people, including you, are just blithely ignoring that sources that are not deprecated are being tossed aside because of the careless editing, or that there very clearly is edit-warring occurring (and no, nobody claimed a BLP exception). Anywho, hope you enjoyed your holidays, and if youd like to be informed when a case is filed on this as an interested party Id be happy to do so. nableezy - 23:32, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
No, it was not identical, he expanded the original CP essay in to a much longer one. I still dont understand how somebody can argue that Dershowitz is not entitled to defend himself, and Im honestly a bit stunned at how the turns tabled here with me defending Dershowitz's right to a defense here and you saying toss it. As far as deprecation and policy, I dont actually see what policy was ever approved to support this. And I do think the idea that 4 editors at RSN one time can ban a website from all articles to be absolutely insane (FPM), or 15 for that matter (CP-the Icewhiz and NoCal100 socks). Would I ever cite FPM? No, of course not. But how deprecation has turned RSN into a voting booth is absolutely bonkers to me. But Jayjg, this started, for me at least, over this article used in Edward Said. It is astonishing to me that anybody can claim it is not a reliable source. It is cited over and over by other sources, all of them giving credit to that article for uncovering the FBI surveillance of Said. And it is insane to me that people are removing what is the most authoritative source by the most qualified expert in that article. I have pretty high standards for sources, but here this is the very best source on the topic. And no, my issue is with both. I posted several diffs of David removing sources that are not deprecated. Totally ignored. David wouldnt even look before reverting. Totally ignored. Im still tempted to take this to ArbCom, will see though. nableezy - 19:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
I don't think you would care if David wholesale or "carelessly" removed all citations to Breitbart News or VDare or most of the other deprecated sources.'
Hi! I’m curious if you have anymore information on Gregory James Shelby? It only says he is an artist. 64.71.174.172 (talk) 05:46, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
in working on User:Doug Weller/Goyim Defense League? I think the network's recent activities have made it notable.[12][13] Doug Weller talk 09:21, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
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