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I used to edit South Africa-related articles, but I don't much anymore. See the edit histories of Khoikhoi and Bushmen. :-) Khoikhoi 00:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
Just a few notes. Firstly, there is no way that you can compare this article and the one on the subject of the attacks attributed to the other terrorist group. Your article contained less than a line, and was unsourced. The other one was far, far longer, and was sourced. There was no way that information could be in the article on the organisation, and when a section within the PKK article expands to such a level, then it will warrant its own article. Also please note that 'that article exists, and therefore this one should.' Is not at all a valid argument, as explained here. As it happens, I have changed the article to a redirect to the PKK article, until it can be properly expanded. J Milburn 19:18, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Re: Many traces and roots of Zoroastrianism can still be seen in the current beliefs of Iranians. Don't you think this is not considered as a good thing by Islam religion? Burgaz 13:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Burgaz 14:35, 11 February 2007; I am not an expert in that field and I suggest you search Wiki and find people with better knowledge than me but there is a big difference between recognizing the “Ahlle Ketab”; which means Islam believe these 3 religions believe in the same god and their holly books are the words of the same god; and disrespecting other religions and beliefs! Zoroastrian is a respected religion today in Iran and people are free to practice it if they wish. There are also over 2 billion Buddhists and Hindus in the world who are equally respected by Muslims. As a matter of fact Islam is more flexible than Christianity in this respect, did you know that Islam is not even recognized as a religion by Vatican (or any other Christian church as far as I know)? Kiumars 16:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
In Islam, there is not compulsion first of all. I am not an authority in religion issues, and my knowledge about Islam is not wide. I cannot judge people's beliefs. But, my knowledge is about Islam is that Islam finds others religions as "mushirk" (denying the unity of God). - In Islam, there is not compulsion first of all. - As a secular country, every religion is free in Turkey. But, I remember that in Ottoman Empire, only 3 religions were free: Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. There were people in Mardin -at the period of Murad IV-, who worship Star, but they were forced to execution. Finally, they became Christian, and saved their lifes.Burgaz 21:20, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
You wondered "Can I copy from his home page?" The answer is no. I've tagged the article with ((db-copyvio)). Please let it be deleted before starting a new one. You can use his home page as a source, but please don't copy it word for word! Best regards, Angus McLellan (Talk) 01:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Hey Burgaz. As you can see from Archive 1, the title of the page has been discussed before. I wish I could go in to detail with you about this, but I simply don't have the time right now. Basically, most international observers note that both the PKK and the Turkish state commit infractions against human rights. In my opinion, both these infractions should be documented upon. According to Human Rights Watch:
"Consequently, all economic, political, military, social and cultural organizations, institutions, formations -- and those who serve in them -- have become targets. The entire country has become a battlefield."
"The PKK also promised to "liquidate" or "eliminate" political parties, "imperialist" cultural and educational institutions, legislative and representative bodies, and "all local collaborators and agents working for the Republic of Turkey in Kurdistan."
However, it also states that:
"Turkish government forces have, in the course of the conflict with the PKK, also committed serious violations of international human rights and humanitarian law, including torture, extrajudicial killings, and indiscriminate fire (...) Many who died were unarmed civilians, caught in the middle between the PKK and security forces, targeted for attacks by both sides."
So, I don't think the article should only be about the PKK, it also mention people killed by the Turkish Army. Do you remember in 2004 when twelve-year-old Uğur Kaymaz was killed in Kızıltepe by Özel Tim (Special Forces Squad)? 11 civilians in Diyarbakır (including four children) and 3 civilians in Kızıltepe were killed by Turkish government forces at demonstrations in March-April 2006. Of course, some may argue that these are not civilian casualties because they were demonstrating in support for Öcalan. Anyways, that's all I have the time to write for now. Kolay gelsin. Khoikhoi 05:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia!! I hope that you will enjoy your time here. I was thinking that maybe you would like to get involved with Wikipedia:WikiProject Turkey - we need all the help that we can get. There you can also find and contact users who are trying to improve Turkey-related articles. Just add your name to the participants list. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Happy editing! Baristarim 03:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
You have a message on my talk page.Kiumars 20:31, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
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Do you mean these 5 races? I always find languages an interesting subject. Although Japanese and Korean fall into the same category in languages, Chinese do not. This is very interesting, because we think they are Mongoloid as in the figure. I read once that Tibetians come from "Mongoloid race". I said "Wow!, then Tibet language is similar to Japan or Turkish." But, it is not. It is similar to Chinese. I was disappointed, and I classify people according to language families rather than race concept which is more appropriate, I think.
I am not expert of genetics science, and I can not understand some things, really for example apperance can be misleading. If I see a page on human races, I directly look to the faces, now I see it is not correct. If ancestry can be found by genetics, OK, WOW! I read that an Irish woman was found as a grandchild of Viking through genetics science. I do not know genetics researches finds the same things with history. Turkic people in Iran was granchildren of Central Asian people migrated to Iran, and children of Anatolian people who migrated into Iran-Anatolia-back to Iran, as in historical researches. I think that there is an "unforced" (Turkic speaking people accepted Iranization with their own will) Iranization of Turkic speaking people in Iran. But, if genetics science does not agree with it, OK, then you can claim this migrations were very small in history. I am not an expert!
As I am interested in these subjects, I really do not know the correct answer to the question: What makes a nation? We know that if Turkish language does not exist, then Turkish people would vanish. (Like French people who speak French which is related to Latin, but their grandfathers was speaking Celtic.) In culture, religion is an important issue, for sure. Sharing the same pride in defeating the enemies is also very important. So, if culture is important, why do you need "scentific theories" regarding Azeris. What makes a nation?. Religion? "Millet" in Turkish is an Islamic concept and makes all Muslims a nation. In Turkish Independence March, "Millet" is used. But, "Ulus" in Turkish is a secular word created by Republic, and makes all citizens of Turkey a nation without any reference to religion, this is one of the reasons of Kurdish seperatism. But, then all Iranians, Turkish, and Arabians are the same nation?. These questions are difficult questions, but a combination of all these factors makes a nation, though I am not sure how. Burgaz 00:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC) Reference in original RACES page:
You are making a personal attack. Why did you do it? "Consuming time" is my consuming time. I have to study my lessons so my idea is to stop editing on Wiki, so I thought that I should not make new contributions. But, if messages comes, I reply to them. My lessons is not about genetics, so I do not need education in these subjects, but I am interested in history and read books. Burgaz 01:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Kuimars, Please concentrate only on content from now on, not on the contributors. I liked this message by SlimVirgin very much because what that guy did me last night was wrong. We were talking about Azeris in Iran, but he made a personal attack against me by saying "You have lots to learn, start from A B C of science." I am happy that he has been has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia.Burgaz 18:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
See Talk:Casualties of the Turkish-Kurdish conflict/Archive 1.
List of attacks by the Kurdistan Workers' Party took 5 Yes, the winner. If it is not neutral, the neutral one, namely "List of events in the conflict between the Turkish Government and the Kurdistan Workers Party" took 3 Yes, 3 No's.
What is the result of this voting?
Still article has the name "Turkish-Kurdish conflict", which is not neutral since it uses the term Kurdish instead of PKK, and the problem is certainly not an ethnic conflict. If PKK was used instead of Kurdish, it would be better. I changed the name, but a user said that I had to do a survey before renaming. But, there was a survey finished in summer but no result was obtained. What can I do to change the name?Burgaz 20:56, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, well check out these BBC headlines: "Turkey warns children off clashes", "Kurd unrest escalates in Turkey", "Turkish Kurds riot after bombing", "Plight of Turkish Kurds continues". Also, it doesn't make sense to call it the "Turkey-PKK conflict" because the conflict is not only with the PKK. There are other groups such as the Kurdistan Freedom Falcons as well. And aside from militant groups, civilians are involved as well. The Turkish Army is still made up of Turkish men, right? Khoikhoi 03:57, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
I think it is better to discuss general comments, on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Casualties_of_the_Turkish-Kurdish_conflict discussion page, not on my talk page if not directly to related my ideas. If you are not interested in this issue, you do not have to make comments. I randomly send messages some of people who are WikiTurkey project members about the survey and the background of the issue. Ignore my message sent, if you are not interested in it.Burgaz 12:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. I think you may have contacted the wrong editor. Happy editing! J Milburn 13:00, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I tried that name but Khoikhoi did not accept it. Khoi said that Uğur Kaymaz was a civilian Kurdish, he was killed, so it is not only PKK-Turkey conflict. But, current name Turkish-Kurdish conflict is wrong because that there is no ethnic conflict. There is a problem related to ethnic Kurdish problem but it is not directly an ethnic war. I asked the naming dispute to R.Cakır, and he said that "I think that "Turkish-Kurdish conflict" is not a good idea because it refers to some kind of civil war that does not exist yet. I would prefer 'Kurdish question (or problem, or maybe conflict) in Turkey' or Turkey's Kurdish question'. But, Khoi did not like the name because according to him not only Kurds are responsible for the conflict. He said that he would think about the name, but no suggestions came form him! I searched on the Internet, and found an article by Koç University academician Somer: "People seem to instinctively understand and fear that this time such a path may lead to a Turkish-Kurdish conflict, i.e. not only a conflict between the state and Kurdish separatists as the conflict previously was, but which involves ordinary people". from http://www.turkishpolicy.com/default.asp?show=fall_2006_somer That would be another nominee for the name: "Turkish state- Kurdish separatists conflict". If there is a vote, we should make a consensus. Any name other than this name is suitable. But, at the last vote, people who are against the current name gave votes to different names so article's name did not change. We should refrain from this. Is "Turkish state - Kurdish separatists conflict" good?Burgaz 11:33, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
It's fortunate (for them) that they are in the intelligence business and not in commerce Burgaz. Pazarda sünger satmaya göndereceksin ki fakülteleri gelişsin. :) Cretanforever 14:31, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
See WP:CANVASS. Requested moves are an attempt to create a consensus of Wikipedia editors, not editors who you think may share a view similar to yours. --Iamunknown 22:48, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Will you support my arguement for the deletion of the Category:Anti-Armenianism that I put forward on May 1, 2009?
It is very subjective and even racist as it puts every person who questions the Armenian genocide, such as prominent academicians, who are not racist or personally against Armenian people or Armenia as an entity, along with assasins and militants.
Thank you
81.214.147.154 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.214.147.154 (talk) 19:50, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
((adminhelpme)) I changed my user name to Burgaz two years ago. I want my old user page to be deleted 16:11, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
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