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Hi.I agree that there are numerous claimants for the five sees but only the Roman and eastern orthodox are concidered part of the pentarchy since all the other claimants, all non chalcedonians, were excluded from the council in trullo deemed to be heretical by both the Pope, the Roman Emperor and the Ecumenical patriarch, for whatever reasons. So as a matter of accuracy we must maintain the reference. i will revert back your edit but please fill free to adress to me whatever reasons I might have underminded. Regards. Melathron (talk) 14:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
You wrote that 1 Enoch is not a matter of faith for Ethiopians, but I just wanted to correct you that 1 Enoch is indeed held to be a canonical and important part of the Holy Bible for Ethiopian Orthodox Christians! BTW My compromise is only that we mention in the intro, that some groups consider the Ark mythology, while others (not just the EOTC, but also any Muslims who believe the Quran is historically valid, Jews who believe the Tanakh is historically valid, and even other Abrahamic sects) still continue to teach today that it is historical. This is easy to reference, needs to be pointed out, and should head off further prolonged debate if we can only get the 'mythology' camp to acknowledge that they don't have a monopoly on pov, which they don't seem interested in acknowledging at present. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 12:30, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
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I'm sorry that I have not been able to agree with your suggested alternative lead sentence formulation for the article. There is nothing personal in this. I appreciate your contributions. However for the reasons I have placed on the article talk page, I think your proposal does not do enough to specify the proper name of the Church, which it is IMO very important to do. Since the article is headed Roman Catholic Church, fudging the name issue will leave readers with the wrong impression that RCC is the proper name of the church. Xandar 23:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
(This one, as used here.) Let's have that debate, shall we? Yes, all Melkite Patriarchs have it, but the case seems strong for removing it from all their articles. First, it's rather large and cumbersome, part of a general trend toward insisting on purely decorative touches that add little to readers' understanding of a subject. And second, it doesn't - as a template ought to - feature the articles it's used in in this case (in other words, the Melkite Patriarchs are missing from the template). Sure, they're all Eastern Christians, but how much is a reader interested in the Patriarchs served by links to Divine Liturgy or Philokalia? Surely he can click through to Melkite Greek Catholic Church in the first sentence and find the template there, can he not? If the standard for using the template is that the subject be a practicing Eastern Christian, why not use it at Vladimir Putin or, for that matter, Tom Hanks? Thoughts? - Biruitorul Talk 04:59, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks! I'm not English mother-tongue, and I appreciate any copyedit and improvement in the Article. A ntv (talk) 21:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Apologies for screwing up the meaning in one of my attempts at copyediting: hope that's the only place it happened. Mhardcastle (talk) 17:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you a lot for the edit!! It was very necessary. I'm not English mother tongue so I love when my edits are copyedited. About such sentence, do you think that the sentence "in the frame of the first Origenist polemic" is more clear? I don't know how "Origenist" sounds to not experts, so I preferred the first time to use a turn of phrase. A ntv (talk) 18:06, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, I moved it to the bottom of the page, it's still there! (See Template:Psalms). I know it may not be as visable, but it's tider and will allow for the eventual creation of an article on every psalm. Epson291 (talk) 04:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I invite you here [1] for input. Best Regards Ninevite (talk) 03:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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A great article, well researched and balanced. God Bless
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Thank you for your additions and organization of the Enoch page. I saw it needed help and tried my best from the source I was looking at last night, and was delighted when I saw your additions this morning. Well done!Aramink (talk) 18:28, 14 February 2009 (UTC) No problem, thank to you for your interesting edits. A ntv (talk) 18:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hello, did you understand why I removed the rest of the other edit to Transubstantiation? I wasn't sure if I should note it on the talk page. I think I should have said more in the edit summary. I left an explanation on the user's talk page. Thank you. LovesMacs (talk) 18:49, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello, thank you for correcting my error in Transubstantiation here. I was thinking only of words that meant "change" and I didn't even think of the forma/substantia contradiction. LovesMacs (talk) 12:47, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hello again. Could I possibly trouble you to look at Prokon? I'd really like someone with an understanding of Eastern religion to check my suspicions. ϢereSpielChequers 15:59, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
I am a neutral outsider (Catholic!) attempting to merge the various and conflicting histories of the various churches in Karala, many of whom seem to have trouble naming themselves much less coming up with a common history (which they share until 1663 or so). I had succeeded merging five such churches but had, unfortunately picked as a name "History of the Saint Thomas Christians" which turned out to be too close to the article Saint Thomas Christian tradition which (of course!) contained its own history. There are three "owners" of that article which are trying to destroy my merged history (which is far from perfect BTW, but is neutral). My merged history includes theirs but apparently insufficiently.
They are trying replace all other articles by sheer weight of numbers, I guess. I had been merging one by one and had received no negative feedback thus far. I was wondering if I could call on you at some point in time to comment on the proposed deletion of the new history. Right now, I am the only advocate for the article. Their's isn't too bad but is missing some stuff and has some stylistic problems. But they do have three vocal defenders which I don't have. I am (no longer!) looking to replace theirs which, strictly speaking doesn't conflict with mine. I have offered to change the name to avoid the appearing to challenge them, but they most likely will reject that. So far, they have made no concessions whatever though I have tried to work with them.
I don't need your help this minute, but I may shortly. Can I call on you? Thanks. Student7 (talk) 14:51, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Just wanted to inform that a new user has duplicated mulitple pages you have already created by accident. Here is the link showing the pages he has created. I have already left him a message regarding the duplicates, but they still remain there. Good Day Ninevite (talk) 18:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
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Can you please explain to me...what is the difference between the Assyrians and the Syriac-Aramaic? Why are there two flags.?Aren't we the same people?It's been bugging me lately. Thanks:)SchnitzelMannGreek. 16:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Actually, you will find that Assyria existed as an entity right up until the 7th century AD. There is no evidence, let alone proof that the native Mesopotamians were wiped out or removed from thier lands. Many modern orientalists firmly support the continued existance of Assyrians. In addition, Armenian, Persian, Georgian and Russian records use the term Assyrian well before the 19th century. Also take into account the continued use of Assyrian names throughout history. The term "Syriac" is utterly false, it is generally accepted that it is in fact a Greek Bastardisation of "Assyrian", a fact ignored by many Westerners.
In an interview with Bidawid, published in 2003, he commented on the Assyrian name dispute and declared his ethnic point of view:
“I personally think that these different names serve to add confusion. The original name of our Church was the ‘Church of the East’ ... When a portion of the Church of the East became Catholic, the name given was ‘Chaldean’ based on the Magi kings who came from the land of the Chaldean, to Bethlehem. The name ‘Chaldean’ does not represent an ethnicity... We have to separate what is ethnicity and what is religion... I myself, my sect is Chaldean, but ethnically, I am Assyrian.” —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.116.120 (talk) 00:58, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Your question about references to say that Mar Thoma Church is East Syrian. Please compare the liturgy of the Orthodox Churches and that of the Mar Thoma Church. (both in Malayalam). You may also compare the titles given in Malankara Metropolitans.
Your comment – historically they are west Syrian. Do you have any historical document or references (not the books published by so many in the twentieth century) to support it? Neduvelilmathew (talk) 00:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
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Hi there,
Sorry for deleting some of the stuff from the Nicholas I Zaya article. I was going to put it back once I got things in the right format. I certainly approve of you restoring the ISBN number of my book (The Ecclesiastical Organisation of the Church of the East, 1318-1913)!
I note your comment that the issue of the firman gave a degree of protection to the Chaldean church. I would have thought that the most important change of circumstance, at least as far as the second half of the 19th century was concerned, was the Ottoman campaign of 1847 against Badr Khan Beg and Nurallah, prompted by the 1843 massacre and the subsequent 1846 Kurdish invasion of Tkhuma. The following paragraph from an unpublished book of mine on the history of the Church of the East conveniently summarises this campaign:
In October 1846 Bedr Khan Beg and Nurallah invaded Tkhuma. The Christian villagers of the region were promised shelter by the agha of Chal, but this offer appears to have been merely a ruse. On its way to Chal, a large column of Tkhuma villagers was encircled and massacred by the Kurds. The Kurds also sacked every village and destroyed every church in Tkhuma. Women and children were taken alive, to be sold into slavery, but the Kurds killed every man they caught. The survivors fled over the border to Persia.
The invasion provoked a strong protest from the British government. In the past, distracted by the threat from Muhammad Ali, the Turks had shrunk from challenging Bedr Khan Beg openly. Now, encouraged by the British, they decided to destroy his power by force. Local militia under the governors of Erzerum, Jezira and Mosul sealed off the Bohtan mountains on three sides, and an Ottoman army advanced up the Bohtan river into the heart of Bedr Khan Beg’s domain. His strongholds were captured and the main Kurdish army was routed at Seert in 1847. By 1850 both the khan and Nurallah were captured and exiled, and Ottoman rule was, at last, firmly established in Kurdistan.
If I'm right, I don't think the grant of the firman was of great practical importance for the Chaldean church during the 1850s and 1860s. After all, it didn't help the Chaldeans during the massacres of 1915. I think the extension of Ottoman rule to the Hakkari and Bohtan regions was a far more important factor. In which case it's not really relevant to an article on Nicholas Zaya. I plan to do an article on the Kurdish invasions in the next few weeks, and I think the issue should be discussed there rather than in this article.
In the material I have overwritten I noticed that a possible alternative date of death for Zaya was mentioned. Do you have any idea where that suggestion came from? I am pretty sure he died in 1855, but I'll check the relevant references when I get back from the office this evening.
Hope my brusque amendments haven't upset you too much.
Djwilms (talk) 07:18, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
In an interview with Bidawid, published in 2003, he commented on the Assyrian name dispute and declared his ethnic point of view:
“I personally think that these different names serve to add confusion. The original name of our Church was the ‘Church of the East’ ... When a portion of the Church of the East became Catholic, the name given was ‘Chaldean’ based on the Magi kings who came from the land of the Chaldean, to Bethlehem. The name ‘Chaldean’ does not represent an ethnicity... We have to separate what is ethnicity and what is religion... I myself, my sect is Chaldean, but ethnically, I am Assyrian.” —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.106.116.120 (talk) 01:01, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Dear Djwilms, which is the modern name for Gazarda? I cant find a wikilink. A ntv (talk) 08:10, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm glad for your edit, which brought to light the inadequacy of the then existing Dab entry for the medieval Christian center. If the way i've redone it doesn't IYO work (i don't claim to grasp the historical issues you've raised yet, but only some MoSDab ones), i'd like for one of us (me if you ask) to copy this note to talk:Kozan, Adana along with our respective summaries in the edit history: if i haven't met your concerns in the latest version, it may be that i need to be educated, or the article needs to be amplified or even split, to ensure its accessibility to those who seek it at Sis. I'll watch here for a while for any response from you (so we can keep the dialogue easy to follow even for latecomers), but rattle my cage at User talk:Jerzy if i seem to have forgotten, & i'll reappear here long enuf to help be sure we get set up at the article's talk page.
--Jerzy•t 08:59, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi there! Thanks so much for wikifying my recent clutch of articles on the Chaldean dioceses. It looks as though I will get a contract for a book on the Church of the East to be written in the next twelve months, so I have spent most of today updating my knowledge of the Chaldean Church since 1990, when I last took a serious interest in it. The fruits of my research (Isn't Wikipedia wonderful?) are to be found in the last few paragraphs of the article Post-1913 Dioceses of the Church of the East. I am sure you know as least as much as I do on what has been going on in the past two decades, so anything you can do to add to my list of bishops in 2009 will be most welcome. I'm sure there's more that can be said. For your information, I've been using the Patriarchate of Babylon website linked to the article Joseph Audo.
Djwilms (talk) 08:48, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Dear Djwilms, I kindly ask you to check the content of my new articles Rabban Hormizd Monastery, and Rabban Hormizd (Saint) (as per George Percy Badger, I'm tring to add new articles on often cited issue - I'm looking for material about Fiey and Tfinkdji). I'm going on with wikification of articles of you, and I would suggest to create a new catergory "Dioceses of the Church of the East" and to remove those articles from "Bishops of the Assyrian Church of the East" and "Chaldean bishops". In order to go on with the Articles on the lives of Patriarchs of the Shimun line after Abdisho Maron, I've bought the Beltrami La Chiesa caldea nel secolo dell'unione, but unfortunatly the more sources I get the more un-matching data I found. Thus I cannot proceed. Perhaps it is better not to have a single article for each Patriach, but a general Article on the whole line. As last issue, if you have time, can please have a look to Abraham Shimonaya, an Article that has been created by some editor with an automatic translation from de:Abraham Shimonaya. I cant read German, thus I cannot end the copyedit work of the Article because I've not understood the whole story A ntv (talk) 18:33, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Long time no see. You might want to get involved in the ongoing discussion (on the discussion page of Church of the East) on what exactly happened in 1552. I've just created a new article, which you could probably make some very useful contributions to.
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Dear A ntv,
Long time no see. I wonder whether you could shed any light on Cardinal Eugene Tisserant's hint that Joseph III was murdered. Here's the relevant extract from his 1931 article Eglise nestorienne (columns 241-2), which I have translated into English. Tisserant had just been speaking about Joseph's fund-raising efforts in Poland and Italy in the 1730s:
The long wait seems to have cooled the affection of his flock for its shepherd. A sharp disagreement ensued, since the old patriarch wished to provide for his succession by appointing as his coadjutor a young priest aged 23 or 25, named Antonio Gallo in the Italian documents. Joseph III acted without seeking the views of the faithful and the clergy, and on 20 November 1754 consecrated Antonio at Mardin without prior notice. (A correction is required to the list of metropolitans of Amid given by Tfinkdji, which omits his name. Tfinkdji, op. cit., p. 488, extract, p. 40.) The Catholics protested at Rome, and on 31 May 1756 the Propaganda nullified the election. (MS Vatican Latin 8063, folios 234-49, contains a report of Cardinal Tamburini and other papers relative to this affair.)
But the presumptive successor to the patriarchate died on 11 January 1757, and twelve days later Joseph III also died suddenly, and perhaps violently (MS Vatican Latin 8063, folio 294). [The rest of the paragraph deals with Joseph IV.]
You wouldn't happen to have access to Tamburini's report, would you? I haven't seen it myself, and would be interested to see what he has to say.
Djwilms (talk) 04:12, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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: CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link) CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) which surely you have but however it does not go in the detail you need. It speaks about Antun Galla, but says nothing about a possible murder of Thimoty Maroge, who it says died at 95 (!!) on 23 Jan 1757. The sources used for such chapters are Gaiamil, Tisserant, Assemani De catholicis 243-4, Fiey Mossoul chretienne (Beirut 1959) 60-1, Assemani Biblioteca orientalis ii ! 578-84. A ntv (talk) 18:05, 8 April 2011 (UTC)On 12 September 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ancient Church Orders, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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Hi there! Some lovely new images (particularly the 'artist's impression' of Sulaqa), and with luck I will be able to reproduce the photo of Abdisho V Khayyath in my forthcoming book (to be published in April). Well done for finding them!
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Hi there! Keep up the good work on creating articles on individual Chaldean bishops. I liked your articles on Stephen Jibri and Yohannan Guriel. I'll try to help with additional material once I have a spare moment, but at present I'm finalising maps and illustrations for my forthcoming book. Nearly there, though!
I should have more time for Wikipedia contributions after Easter, and hope to get back to my suite of articles on patriarchs.
Djwilms (talk) 02:20, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Regarding your suggestion:
I think it's a fine idea, I think the replication is unnecessary and does add an additional burden to maintaining the lists. My intent with my recent changes was to actually point out the periods where there was no separate Syrian Catholic hierarchy. I think this also makes sense since there is already a single list for the pre-518 period before the Syriac/Eastern Orthodox split Jztinfinity (talk) 22:19, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
I leave it to you to work out how there could have been an eparchy headed by a titular bishop. It's normal for an apostolic vicar to be the bishop of a titular see, but an eparch is bishop of the eparchy itself. Did you really mean to move the indication of the titular see held by what you call "eparchs" of Marča from the position where it could be understood to refer not to the first head of the see but only of his successors to a position where it applies even to him?
The Annuario Pontificio says: I Vicariati Apostolici sono le circoscrizioni ecclesiastiche, rette da un Vicario Apostolico, stabilite nei luoghi di missione, dove non è stata ancora pienamente organizzata la gerarchia ecclesiastica (can. 371, §1). Dal Vicario Apostolico, che governa a nome del Sommo Pontefice il terrorio ad esso assegnato, dipendono tutte le missioni, cioè la stazioni missionarie che esplicano la loro attività nel territorio stesso. Il Vicario Apostolico è di regola un Vescovo titolare. I primi Vicariati Apostolici, nel senso che ha ora questa denominazione, furono istituiti nel sec. XVII.
Older editions added: La maggior parte dei Vicariati Apostolici dipendono dalla S. Congr. de Propaganda Fede; gli altri dalla S. Congr. per la Chiesa Orientale.
Questo vale ancora: dipendono dalla Congregazione per le Chiese Orientali, per esempio, i Vicariati Apostolici (tutti di rito latino) di Alep, Alessandria di Egitto, Anatolia, Bairut, Thessaloniki. Esoglou (talk) 20:56, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
Bonjour. Concernant la Succession apostolique de l'évêque Alexandru Sterca-Şuluţiu, je vous propose de suivre le lien suivant: http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/ À bientôt, Luciengav (talk) 18:23, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
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Hi. Thanks for very many fine edits, particularly on Eastern Christianity. Your offer on Talk:Melchizedek to move the large chunk of Urantia Book WP:OR to it's own article is very tolerant generous etc., but might be easier to just cut and paste onto Talk page itself. WP:Weight doesn't really justify... same for overweight Mormon content. This happens on some Hebrew Bible figure's pages, Enoch is another example. Best wishes. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:17, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I read their story and I was so impressed that i was about to print their full story to the kids in sunday schools but there were some points that weren't clear so I hit wikipedia and I haven't found this article. is it about the clear notability thing? --Proud coptic (talk) 22:52, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Use Callinicus IV. The simple fact is that Callinicus III was elected as Patriarch, but is not always recognized becaue he was not formally enthroned. AFAIK the majority of sources accord him the office, and the issue of (non-)recognition is something that should be explained in the article itself, not adopted in the title. The same goes for Callinicus IV, V, etc. Constantine ✍ 07:01, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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Hi there, long time no see. I've just been reading through your splendid articles on the Syrian Catholic patriarchs. You have been busy! Keep it up, and I'll help you add to them when I get time.
Just one small point. Many of the names you use are French, not English. Ignace is simply the French name for Ignatius. Could I suggest you use the following names in the articles, as these are the standard English renderings of the patriarchs' names:
Andrew Akijan (1662–78); Ignatius Peter Gregory (1678–1701); Ignatius Mikhail Jarweh (1783–c.1800); Ignatius Mikhail IV Daher (1802–10); Ignatius Shemon Hindi Zora (1814–18); Ignatius Peter Jarweh (1820–51); Ignatius Antun I Samheri (1852–64); Ignatius Philip Arkus (1866–74); Ignatius Giwargis Shelhot (1874–91); Ignatius Behnam Benni (1893–7); Ignatius Ephrem II Rahmani (1898–1929); Ignatius Gabriel I Tappuni (1929–68); Ignatius Antun II Hayyek (1968–98); Ignatius Musa I David (1998–2001); Ignatius Peter VIII Abdalahad (2001–8); and Ignatius Joseph III Yonan (from 2009).
My book on the Church of the East is coming out in September, and I will probably follow it up with a book on the Syrian Orthodox and Catholic Churches.
Djwilms (talk) 08:30, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello! This is just to let you known that I have just nominated Patriarch Joasaph I of Constantinople at DYK. Feel free to tinker around with the nomination if you want. Keep up the good work! Constantine ✍ 12:34, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
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PanydThe muffin is not subtle 03:20, 29 July 2011 (UTC) 23:28, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
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PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:03, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Dear A ntv,
You've obviously been doing a lot of work recently!
You may be interested to read this brief account of Shahbaddin's patriarchate given by Abbeloos and Lamy in an appendix to their Latin translation of the Ecclesiastical Chronicle of Bar Hebraeus (Volume I, page 849). In general it seems to agree with the facts as given by you, but I note that he is described as archbishop, not bishop, of Jerusalem before he became patriarch:
Ignatius Peter Gregory, originally archbishop of Jerusalem, was a relative of the Jacobite patriarch Abd al-Masih, and was elected by the Catholics to replace Andrew Akijan in 1678. In the same year he created two orthodox bishops, Gregory Isho for Jerusalem and Dionysius Rizqallah for Aleppo. In the following year he was confirmed as patriarch by the Roman pontiff, and appointed Basil Isaac maphrian of the East. He died in prison in Adana, on 4 March 1701.
The English translation from the original Latin is mine. I can easily let you have the Latin version if you need it.
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Hi A ntv, I just thought I'd let you know that I saw your article Dionysius (bishop of Milan) in the New Articles list-- The image greatly improves the article.However, I think the article seems to contain a few errors: the article contains grammatical errors. It would be great if you could also upload a picture for the related article Synod of Milan.
I'm kind of new here myself but let me know if there is any way I can help. Thanks, Amy Z (talk) 17:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
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DYk issues have been raised at Template:Did you know nominations/Liturgy of St Cyril. SL93 (talk) 16:46, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
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I moved the Bahá'í Faith into New religions as it seems the more logical category to me. It may have Abrahamic roots but as it developed in the 19th century it is surely "new"? Alternatively, as it originated in Iran, maybe that's a better location? Either way, grouping it with the old established Abrahamic religions doesn't look right. Vacarme (talk) 13:06, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
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what is the "Ukraina Commonweath"?!?! Polotsk was part of Great Lithuanian Duchy, that was a part of Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (Rzecz Pospolita). Polotsk is in Belarus not Ukraine, Anton Sielava was a Belarussian nobleman, not ucranian. And of course he have nothing to do with "Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church" because UGCC appeared in 1839 after abolition of Greek Catholic Church in territory of Russian Empire. Contemporary UGCC is rests of Uniate Church of Rzecz Pospolita, that remained because the part of territory of West Ukrania was located in Austrian Empire. To call the Uniate Church of Anton Sielava's times is anachronism and incorrect because the majority of its members were Belarussians, not Ucranians. 188.123.231.30 (talk) 14:42, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Greetings: I see you have removed category Italian music from Gian Battista Casella? What was the rationale? That none of his works is extant? Signed: Basemetal (write to me here) 21:52, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi, Italian music is not necessary as cat because its sub-categories as Italian Composers and Italian musicians are already present. See WP:SUBCAT. A ntv (talk) 22:07, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
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I'd respectfully say that I dont think mentioning Chaldeans as being Assyrians is Nationalism, any more than saying Sikhs are Indians is Nationalism. Maybe Chaldo-Assyrian is a better term, but all are the same people and theyre a distinct ethno-linguistic and ethno-religious group from Iraq. Most Chaldeans accept Assyrian as ethnically right, including Archbishop Raphael Bidawid. Those labels like Chaldeans and Nestorians are misnomers in an ethnic sense, attached to Assyrians by Europeans. Those people were known as Assyrians by all their neighbors and as well, by themselves. As for Syriacs, it isnt an ethnic label, there arent such a race as Syriacs, its just a kind of catch-all to describe any christian from the Mid East. Originally though, Syriac meant the same thing as Assyrian, and it derives from Assyrian. Hard to see how Chaldeans can be anything other than Assyrians, I mean, they are from Northern Iraq which was Assyria, their church was called the church of Assyria to start with, and of Mosul....both those places are in the north where the Assyrians live. Also, the church was renamed as Chaldean by the Italians to mark it out from the Assyrian Eastern Church, meaning the Assyrian Church and Assyrian Identity were already there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.19.250 (talk) 11:51, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
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