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Quite a lot of militaries use unit numbers, permanent fixed identifiers that are far easier for researchers to identify than the unit names which can shift from time to time. For instance, China has the Military Unit Cover Designator (MUCD), the Soviet Union and a large number of its successor states including Russia have the Military Unit Number (MUN), every United States Department of Defense related entity has a Unit Identification Code, and the Imperial Japanese Army had the Tsūshōgō. I believe a field should be added to the infobox for the units service number much in the way Infobox military person has "servicenumber" for a person's military ID number, and another field should be added to allow the field title in the infobox to be subsitituted with a wikilinked article to the number scheme, ie for the PLAAF's 1st Fighter Brigade, which recently transitioned from being called the 1st Fighter Division and is still sometimes called the 1st Air Division:

|unitnumber = 93056
|unitnumber_label = MUCD

After doing so many military unit pages, I think highlighting a stable reference point for the unit is worthwhile. – Abovfold (talk) 01:28, 12 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've added it to Template:Infobox military unit/sandbox. Give it a try. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:51, 12 January 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can someone add ((aircraft_multirole)) be added to the aircraft parameter section please. This will be very helpful for special operations units.

We already have (({aircraft_helicopter_multirole))}

Gavbadger (talk) 20:12, 1 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why would it be helpful for specops units? I don’t understand. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 00:21, 16 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So on articles like 193rd Special Operations Wing, it will explain more than just "MC-130J". It is noticable on "Special Operations Squadron" articles that their is no aircraft listed within the infoboxes. Gavbadger (talk) 20:37, 16 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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I'd appreciate a "war crimes" (or similar) property, so that massacres of civilian populations can be listed in a similar fashion to how battles against hostile military units currently are. Ideally, this would be the lines "war_crimes" (and perhaps "war_crimes_label"), listed right beneath the lines "battles" and "battles_label". It feels rather macabre to designate war crimes as military engagements, and it is unacceptable to not have any infobox category for them at all.

Another useful category would be a "fate" (or similar) property, preferably placed right at the end of the initial section (below the current "website" property). This could be used for defunct units that were restructured, repurposed or destroyed to list in brief what happened to them.

Ted52 (talk) 09:23, 14 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the ((Edit template-protected)) template. When applicable these sound like things to be included in article content, not in infoboxes, but that's just me. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 11:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

commander4 displays Command Sergeant Major but Command Sergeant Major is primarily a US Army specific rank and billet that doesn't exist in other branches. It's odd to have a Marine Corps page that lists a Command Sergeant Major. A Marine SgtMaj would be referred to as a battalion/regimental/division Sergeant Major, never "Command". Can "Sergeant Major" be added as (({commander5))}/(({sergeant_major))}? SkonesMickLoud (talk) 03:18, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@SkonesMickLoud: If you didn't filled in |commander4_label= parameter, then default label is "Command Sergeant Major". If you want that label to be battalion/regimental/division Sergeant Major or any other label, then you just need to filled in that parameter. Ckfasdf (talk) 07:23, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It probably ought not to default to anything, except a generic term. GraemeLeggett (talk) 10:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Agreed, I wasn't asking for battalion/regiment/division Sergeant Major labels, just a generic "Sergeant Major" instead of/in addition to "Command Sergeant Major". The label method works I guess, but it seems like Sergeant Major should be the default and Command could be added with the label. A quick search of Sergeant Major shows that only two branches (the US Army and the IDF) use Command Sergeant Major while the rest use Sergeant Major, making the latter far more common. SkonesMickLoud (talk) 14:59, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Default label for |commander2_label= is "Ceremonial chief" and for commander3_label is |commander3_label= is "Colonel of the Regiment", I believe those are also not that commonly used as well. However, if we don't want to those use default label, then we just need to fill in that parameter. And also that's what suggested in the documentation The infobox allows for up to three current commanders to be specified; the exact roles or titles of these individuals should be specified via the corresponding label parameters. Ckfasdf (talk) 18:39, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]