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Hey BenEmerald. Mind not updating the subscriber count every day? It is cluttering up the page history, and it is not considered a very important detail for regular updating. Thanks! Jlevi (talk) 01:16, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Extending an invitation to @C.J. Griffin in the hopes of reaching a consensus between the two of us in regards to posting material onto The Gravel Institute that is a "no consensus" source but is factually accurate about key events when other reliable sources cannot be found.
I am willing to research and look for any reliable sources that contain the information but the information should be allowed to stay if a reliable source is found since it did happen. Also, a plan B compromise could be appropriate where if factual information is put up by a partisan or no consensus source, it can remain if no reliable sources can be found and will be promptly edited once reliable sources are found. Updatewithfacts (talk) 02:22, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
A good chunk of the history section is documenting various tweets which in the grand scheme of things aren't important to the history of the organization itself. Perhaps move it to a new section titled Controversy?
TomatDividedBy0 (talk) 02:43, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
Sirclogreen (talk) 18:05, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
From what I've seen I think this is inaccurate. – 2603:7080:DA3C:7A33:10B2:8D7D:7422:8A70 (talk) 09:09, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
I'll keep an eye out if the website is taken down (the website host has a banner up saying costs aren't being paid). They aren't active on social media anymore either. Somewhat frustrating, as a former supporter, because they still have an active donation button below the banner. Col99100 (talk) 03:58, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
Most, if not all, European countries have universal health care, paid vacation, paid maternal leave, subsidised childcare and so on. These are NOT necessarily "left wing" countries. USAmericans tend not to have any clue whatsoever of what left is or what socialist means and wouldn't be able to tell a social democrat from a murderous Stalinist even if one showed them Jens Stoltenberg and Stalin side by side (most USAmericans probably couldn't tell them apart either by their looks or their language). It is SO depressing. Do USAmericans think that the US, together with a few fascist dictator-run Central and South American countries that the US has helped become dictator-run, most of the dirt poor African countries, and some islamist countries (with customs that Homo habilis would find brutish and backwards, are the only nations in the world that have got things correct? What would you like if Europeans started editing Wikipeda pages so that Trump was labelled mentally ill and so on? Write FACTS, do not stamp your own views on things on Wikipedia. 31.211.201.66 (talk) 22:05, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
There are some issues with the part in the history section about the Azov Battalion controversy. The main one is that it seems to exclusively rely on a Daily Beast article from February 2022, which is definitely not a secondary source. I actually can't seem to find any secondary sources on this supposed controversy, reliable or not, which raises some questions about whether it has been given undue weight. The other more minor problem is some wording: "The Gravel Institute responded by claiming that the video was accurate and was reviewed by experts prior to publication, but the video was ultimately pulled from public view." The word "but" here suggests that the video becoming private contradicts the Institute's previous statement.
I suggest that the whole passage should be taken out of the article as it does not use any secondary sources and seems to give undue weight to the event. Qurmuziya (talk) 11:44, 14 November 2023 (UTC)