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Lupang Hinirang means land of the appointed.
I find it hard to believe that an article about the Philippines barely mentioned Marcos. It's like an article about Zaire only talking about Mobutu in passing.--Sir Edgar 08:11, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
That's what I meant by "barely mentioned"!!! Marcos ruled for over 20 years. That's a large part of the post-WWII era. No wonder that section is empty. So nothing happened over the past 60 years in the Philippines?!?! That is ridiculous.
To the Anonymous User : How's it going dude? :)Welcome to Wikipedia! :) Marcos is rarely mentioned in Philippine history because he was not loved by majority of the people. The People "Hated" him and did not like him because he brought the Philippines "shame", "corruptions", "bad image" and betrayed his country and the People, for his try-hard dictatorship and martial law act in the 1970's and 1980's. Sorry to say, but he was damm cruel!!. I was a teenager back then when it happened. My whole family and I fled the Philippines and went back to Spain for many years during Marcos' term in office because it was dangerous in the Philippines at that time. It became dangerous during the Martial Law period especialy at night. The streets were empty by 7:00 p.m. or else something could happen such as being arrested or even shot by his corrupt drunken armies who also had the power to take part on political issues. Marcos Was bad!!- Gonzalo (UTC) 10:00 , 5 August 2005
That's cool! That's fine by me. No worries.:) I've got nothing against it...:). I was just commenting about the negative issues of the good old days that's all :)cool!! hehehe! - Gonzalo 4:30 p.m., 5 August 2005 (UTC)
Anyway, a small section on Marcos was placed at the history section. --Jondel 02:59, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
The date 1898 should'nt be mentioned in association with independence. 1898 was the year when the Treaty of Paris (1898) was held. Indepedence did not officially occur until 1935 with the Tydings-Mcdufie Law or Philippine Independence Act.
Some anonomous editor have added July 4 as the Independence day. How many times, do we have to tell the our anonomous editors that the Philippines do not celebrate independence day in July 4. We never have and we never will. Everybody knows that by now. We celebrate our Filipino independence from Spain on June 12, 1898. Gonzalo 8:30, 27 August 2004 (UTC)
The Philippines was bypassed and were not consulted when Spain handed over the Philippines. The Philippine certainly did not agree to being subjugated by the United States. Since America had a war with Spain, Filipino revolutionaries assumed them to be allies and in fact were so at the start. The first constitution at Malolos was used when the Philippines first declared independence. Many Filipino historians resent the term ' insurrection' that American historians use. An insurrection is used for citizens rebelling against their own government. Revolutionaries were simply continuing the fight for independence. The Filipinos could not accept the Americans as their own government.
From the Philippine-American War article: The administration of US President McKinley subsequently declared Aguinaldo to be an "outlaw bandit", and no formal declaration of war was ever issued. Two reasons have been given for this. One is that calling the war the Philippine Insurrection made it appear to be a rebellion against a lawful government, although the only part of the Philippines under American control was Manila. The other was to enable the American government to avoid liability to claims by veterans of the action.
--Jondel 05:17, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Just wondering, What happened to the Language information footnotes written in the bottom of the calling code, inside the Philippine information category box. It disapeared? can someone, please restore it back. cool,Thanks :)-- Gonzalo 8:30 p.m, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Just thought I'd explain some of my recent edits - I'm cleaning up the article to make it more in line with the specifications put forth in Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries and so it's up to par with the article on India. --Jtalledo (talk) 01:30, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
I've done my best to trim down the history part now. I don't know if I can trim down the others. I'll see if I can reorganize the language and demographics section. Hopefully it will be well done so no disparate edits and themes are uploaded or needed.--Jondel 00:42, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
I wonder if it's possible to add more about the country's pre-colonial history, if it's known? For instance, as someone entirely unfamiliar with the country, I wasn't even sure if pre-Spanish Philippines was inhabited by tribes (such as on Papua New Guinea) or had large urban centres or even empires, as in other parts of South-East Asia. Tavtav 21:06, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Are you the proprietor of this site? Your quotes are noted.
Yes... but you see, Wikipedia entries do not belong to a single author and therefore all written works aren't copyrighted nor can previous authors complain about their works getting modified. In short wikipedia is for everyone. In response to "Salabat" being removed isn't it true that salabat simply means ginger tea and may or may not be iced? I drank iced ginger tea at a 5-star resort awhile back and found it superb and decided to include it under cocktails. --anonymous user 00:32, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
To the guy who keeps adding Philippine cuisine,
Please understand, that were trying to be cohesive and trim. Disparate entries like , 'Jose Rizal, he's very smart.' or ' You should visit Cebu.' will probably be deleted on sight. Your entries are welcome but we're trying to present a professional looking article here.--Jondel 00:32, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
hey whoever you are could you please stop removing the word "philippine archipelago" The philippines is in itself an archipelago!!!
Goodness, the constant editings on this article just emphasizes why I don't bother with it anymore. You try to make it a more professional and informative article and your edits are just deleted. The point of an article introduction is to give a concise summary of the subject matter. I believe that the paragraphs I added serve to inform the reader what kind of a country the Philippines is: predominantly Catholic, colonized by Spain and the U.S., with unique economic features, and having typical developing country problems.
I don't think mentioning that it is a Southeast Asian country off the coast of mainland Asia, with 7,107 islands is enough. I also don't think that mentioning its various names over the centuries is more important than it is mostly Catholic, colonized by Spain and the U.S., etc. Why don't you delete that nomenclature paragraph as well? And why delete the fact that the country's capital is Manila apart from it being also mentioned in the infobox? The capital of a country is such a basic geographic information that trivia quizzes thrive on the "What is the capital of Country X?" type of questions. --seav 09:13, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
P.S. I'm bringing the deleted info back to the article. I'm open to discussing what important basic facts about the Philippines that should be mentioned in the intro. What I'm not open to is outright deletion without an uncoward explanation. --seav 09:24, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Cleaned up list of notable personalities in "Culture". Specifically, I separated the list of sports personalities from the historical figures. Also, I made an important correction: Carlos P. Romulo did not became the Secretary-General of the United Nations: he became the first Asian president of the United Nations General Assembly on its Fourth Session. Here is a link to his biography on the UN Gen. Assembly website. --- Tito Pao 03:03, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Eek. Somebody clean up the culture section. The part about the anime and the soap operas sounds so un-wikipedia-like.Chicbicyclist 11:26, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
The economy section is rather euphemistic and sounds like a propaganda brochure, a Wikipedia article should be objective. As far as I know the Philippines has never been regarded as a "new Asian tiger", but rather "never became one of the 'Asian tiger' economies". Economic performance in terms of "GDP per capita annual growth rate (%) 1990-2003" is rather poor compared to other Asian countries such as Vietnam or Thailand. --Rocator 01:15, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
and the Philippines remains one of the poorest countries in the region. I'm removing this phrase. The country is not as poor as say, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, East Timor, and Vietnam(though Vietnam is catching up). Though the Philippines is not on par with Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei they deffinitely have more in common in macro-economic terms, especially with Thailand but deffinteily not comparable to the countries mentioned earlier.
According to the infobox the Second Republic came before the Third Republic and the text doesn't help. Sumahoy 04:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
The article mentions:
83+9=92... what's the other 2% if 9% are the various protestant denominations? -- Mang Kiko
Consider also Iglesia ni C(h)risto, Aglipayan, and conventional protestants :Baptists, Union Church, Methodists, etc. also unitarians:Adventists, Mormons, Jehovah's witnesses, etc.--Jondel 00:44, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Many Anglicans/Episcopalians don't consider themselves as protestant. They tend to associate with Catholics, practise devotion to Mother Mary and other Catholic traditions.--Jondel 00:53, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps we can add on the main article who is the current president and vice president, and perhaps add their pictures, just like in the Australia article. Circa 1900 02:26, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
I reverted an edit by an anon, 210.1.87.16. I don't know if I over did it. Please check his version against my revert.
Mikereichold 03:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
You guys should add more pictures to see how beautiful the country is... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.29.88.79 (talk • contribs)
I am considering that this article be blocked permanently to anons considering multiple vandalisms and the article is fairly mature (?)..--Jondel 02:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Independence did not occur until 1935 with the Philippine Independence Act. The treaty of Paris was held in 1898. The treaty provided that the Philippines be ceaded to the United States. As of 1898 the Philippines belonged to the U.S. I request that the article be unprotected on substantial grounds.
The declaration of independence from Spain was done no less by the Filipino people-- which happened coincidentally in the aftermath of the Battle of Manila Bay (which the US had won). In addition, Spain's secession of Guam to Captain Henry Glass and his forces on the cruiser U.S.S. Charleston, and the retreat of Spanish Admiral Cámara y Libermoore's fleet to Spain helped conclude the Spanish-American War. The Philippines did not acquire its Independence since the United States had conquered the archipelago, shortly thereafter.
Yes, but if that were true, why is the philippines heavily reliant on the US if it were truly independent? Let us not forget that the Treaty of Paris 1898 has not died but is still in effect.
Can somebody make an entry as to the etymology and root of this word? is from the Greek?
How come it didn't become Felipe 2 or at least follow the Spanish spelling? Where did the pines in Philip-pines come from?--Jondel 00:51, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
first of all, to one of the posters that suggested that Marcos was not well loved in the Philippines, you are wrong. He is/was well loved. He was demonized in the United States, but here in the Philippines, he was actually fairly well liked, though regarded perhaps as difficult towards the end of his rule. His wife is actually more or less blamed for the ills of "the Marcos era"......
Not true... Marcos exiled, imprisoned and, executed (ie. rubbed-out) lots of people (politicians, media moguls, journalists etc.) on mere suspicion of subversion which is unrealistic for a country which has a tradition of freedom of speech. How can a man of that stature be admired. It is true that he was a brilliant man and is popular in his hometown province but to say that he is, "well loved", needs to be clarified.
Also, I think "booming economy" is a bit of a stretch. There is a real problem here with the economy, and it has been like this for some time.
````Joaquin Kline
Can Anyone stop changing Hindu into Aglipay and Buddhist into protestant. Thank You! -Isao.
I agree that Marcos was a bad man. I don't like him at all. But, my point is that the hundreds of classmates and teachers and the occasional "guy in the FX" that I have heard remark in some way about Marcos has been positive in nature. I was very surprised about that myself. As I have stated, my observations are from first hand dealings with Filipinos on a daily basis. Having said that, my only concearn with the article was the passing reference to Marcos. His contribution, whether for the good or the bad, must be addressed thoroughly. BTW, I guess there will be a lot of traffic on this page with all of the recent problems, (old ladies crushed, mudslides, another coup detat attempt (so far).... interesting times here. But of course as the locals say, "Only in the Philippines"58.69.87.132 07:57, 2 March 2006 (UTC)Joaquin
I am copying a part of Russian History from Wikipedia to show that even as a horrible dictator such as Joseph Stalin, who may have been responsible for as many as 20,000,000 deaths, still retains an important position in the Historical aspects of the article. >>>>>>>> One of these was a Georgian named Joseph Stalin. A brief power struggle ensued after Lenin's death in 1924. Stalin gradually eroded the various checks and balances which had been designed into the Soviet political system and assumed dictatorial power by the end of the decade. Leon Trotsky and almost all other Old Bolsheviks from the time of the Revolution were killed or exiled. As the 1930s began, Stalin launched the Great Purges, a massive series of political repressions. Millions of people who Stalin and local authorities suspected of being a threat to their power were executed or exiled to Gulag labor camps in remote areas of Siberia.
Stalin forced rapid industrialization of the largely rural country and collectivization of its agriculture. Stalin also strengthened Russia's dominance within the Soviet Union as he buttressed his own hold on power. In 1928, Stalin introduced his "First Five-Year Plan" for modernizing the Soviet economy. Most economic output was immediately diverted to establishing heavy industry. Civilian industry was modernized and heavy weapon factories were established. The plan worked, in some sense, as the Soviet Union successfully transformed from an agrarian economy to a major industrial powerhouse in an unbelievably short span of time, but widespread misery and famine ensued for many millions of people as a result of the severe economic upheaval. >>>>>>>>>
just an idea of the tone that can be set within the article to give significance to a horrible, but influential figure. The similarities are pretty obvious. BTW, I use and enjoy the current article on the Philippines, just putting in my two centavos.124.106.130.118 09:22, 3 March 2006 (UTC)Joaquin
Epidemics in the Philippines after American occupation seem to be one of the favoured stries for anti-vaccinationists to spread around. From other sources it looks as though there were frequent epidemics despite vacciantion efforts in the Spanish occupation/rule, then a period of confusion and failed supply when there was a war, then an improvmeent. 1) is there any great detail available to people who've made a study of the area and the times - say 1730 to 1977 but with core interest around 1880 to 1920? 2) does it seem to be a big deal - are the Americans blamed for introducing Ssmallpox or spreading it with vaccination? I notice there isn't a health article AFAICS, I wonder if it is a reasonable part of a country article? (I'm a doctor, so might be expected to think that)Midgley 23:06, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
I think the article should be edited and "reformatted" and I will be in charge. Sorry Jondel for that but when I looked at the WikiProject Countries section, it seems that the article doesn't follow the standard format the section gave. - Obin 3391 10:31, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
at the table entry is wikilinked to unitary state. Don't know if this is correct or not. However, the article at democratic republic says d.r. is 'largely meaningless. --Jondel 02:11, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see a definition of this term. It appears that this is not a common term; it is not in most dictionaries.
I can hardly believe that one could walk from China or Taiwan to the Philippines during the iron age - the ice age was long over and sea levels were approximately where they are today. Icek 12:05, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Not on the Philippines per se but related, History of Southeast Asia is currently a nominee for Wikipedia:Article Improvement Drive. Please support the nominee by voting for it! __earth (Talk) 03:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
This section is not appropriate for the main article and should be transferred to the subarticle Philippine Navy. Polaron | Talk 04:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Philippines and Filipino...Ph vs. F - ippi vs. ipi
what is the history behind this different? why not The Filipines? Why not Philippino? Kingturtle 05:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
See Philippines at List_of_country_name_etymologies#P--Jondel 10:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
(For Philippines)I don't know if this will answer your question but if we assume that Latin was the authoritive language then, the name of the Philippines in latin was Philippinae. (genitive plural or nominative feminine , I'm not sure). I believe the English name was derived from the latin spelling.--Jondel 02:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Concerning the Spanish spelling (Filipino), there are thousands of spanish words in all Filipino languages. Filipinos are more comfortable with the Spanish spelling. Philippinos??--Jondel 02:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey, someone is vandalising this article. I think he's turning the section for Islam in the Philippines into a 'security issue'- .--23prootie 02:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I just noticed that the alleged rigging of elections and corruption in the current administration of Macapagal-Arroyo is conspicuously included in the last part of the article (History section), as if, this is more significant than EDSA 2, Estrada and Ramos.
Better delete that statement for it appears that the article is bias against Macapagal-Arroyo. Anyway, a more detailed article (History of the Philippines) tells everything that happened in the country. 'Politics' in Wiki should not be tolerated.203.76.243.171 08:41, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it me or are the pictures are blatantly biased towards Metro Manila? --Howard the Duck 06:59, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I've converted the infobox parameters to use a new set of variable and deleted several entries concerning the historical constitutions. I left a link to Constitution_of_the_Philippines and the date of the current constitution. The point of the infobox variables is make the various rows of the infobox actual rows in the resultant HTML table so the infobox data can be understood by someone using a screen reader. The technique of making "virtual rows" spanning cells within a row makes the information extremely difficult to understand if you're not able to see the presentation. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:53, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
This keeps being added so I'm adding this section, please feel free to discuss here. To be honest it should probably say, 3rd largest Nation whose citizens can but don't speak English. Come on. In the Philippines at home with friends or interacting in daily life, people speak Tagalog or Cebuano, Ilocano etc. English is spoken only in school, government, business, church or formal occasions, etc. English is also used in the media, entertainment, etc. The mainstream don't speak English at home or with friends. Wrong information will cause many problems. --Jondel 02:34, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Just reverted at Anglophones. Mainstream Filipinos can but won't use English with each other.--Jondel 02:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
I would say the ther largest English-speaking country in the world in which English is the Second Language or in which English is not the mother tongue (or probably second after India). -- (peads 03:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)).