New Saints

Kateri Tekakwitha and Marianne Cope are now canonized saints. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.77.78.21 (talk) 07:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC) Saint Pedro Calungsod is a missionary martyred in Guam Fatherb2 (talk) 04:13, 4 February 2013 (UTC) The title, "American Saints", is misleading and incorrect as, technically, America includes North, South and Central America - basically, the entire Western Hemisphere. All of those listed were from the United States and its territories. "Saints of the United States" would be correct as a title. William Howe July 29, 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.4.102.38 (talk) 18:33, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree wholeheartedly. Shall we change it?Richardson mcphillips (talk) 01:30, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The title of this article is inaccurate, because it omits all non-Roman Catholic saints in the United States Cooluncle55 (talk) 15:09, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maria Esperanza

She did die in New Jersey, which fits the qualification at the beginning of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ansat (talk • contribs) 21:06, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Diego Luis de San Vitores SJ

If Diego Luis de San Vitores is listed here, presumably because he died in Guam, why is St Pedro Calungsod, who died in the same place on the same day, not listed? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 01:43, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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What makes a Saint "American"? Should this entry's title be modified?

The first line of the article indicates this list is geographically limited to the United States of America.

To the rest of the world America includes all of the Western Hemisphere.

So Saints from Canada, Peru, etc, are all also "American Saints".

How can this title be modified to be more accurate, without making it clunky? US Saints would be more clear. Or USA Saints? Or List of Saints from the United States of America? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evx (talk • contribs) 17:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Roman Catholic saints of the USA" perhaps, seeing as the article omits any references to any saints that are not Roman Catholic. Cooluncle55 (talk) 15:10, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Citizens of the United States of America call themselves Americans as a political term. Words often have multiple meanings. US citizens calling themselves American as a legal distinction does not diminish persons of the Americas calling themselves American as a geographical reference. Mmeyerdc (talk) 14:18, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't Jogues French? Manannan67 (talk) 21:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mother Teresa

How come Mother Teresa is listed? Not objecting; just if she is listed because she visited America in service of her vocation, S John Paul (and perhaps Bl Paul VI?) should also be listed. Ansat (talk) 18:23, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mother Teresa was granted honorary US citizenship by the US Congress and always used a US passport when she entered the United States. Mmeyerdc (talk) 14:15, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Candidates for sainthood

What is the source to confirm that all the people listed as candidates for sainthood really are considered candidates for sainthood? Is there a list that can be cited to prove their status as such? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:55, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, candidates according to whom? The only true candidates are those listed Servant of God, and for whom a cause has been initiated. Manannan67 (talk)

Could we have some some editors who are adding names to this list state the criteria they are using? I'm coming to this article for the first time but I suggest that we require the individual to be named or proposed to be named in a public petition to the bishop who would initiate the actual cause for canonization in a WP:RS. Otherwise, offer alternative criteria. This should not be a popularity contest. patsw (talk) 18:22, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I propose this wording and the editing of the article to bring it into conformance:

This list includes individuals for whom there is a public petition to the bishop to commence an investigation into the heroic virtue of the individual leading to their formal recognition as a Servant of God. patsw (talk) 01:30, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have begun by adding this criterion to the article.

I removed the following entries and invite editors to add them back when there's a reference to their petition which can be included.

Even though they have a Wikipedia article, I was unable to find a source for their petition. I intend to continue this, but I'm starting with 3 to obtain some feedback. patsw (talk) 23:19, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removed, patsw (talk) 00:11, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Removed, patsw (talk) 00:54, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A new editor

A brand new editor User:AchillesTBW restored deletions and added references to personal sites

No mention of the candidate's cause

Explictly mentioning the candidate's cause

So we're left with the question - what's the criteria for inclusion here in the "candidate" section? Is there consensus for this "This list includes individuals for whom there is a public petition to the bishop to commence an investigation into the heroic virtue of the individual leading to a decree declaring them to be a Servant of God."? Or do you have alternative to propose? patsw (talk) 01:32, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"List of American saints and beatified people" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect List of American saints and beatified people. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 7#List of American saints and beatified people until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Veverve (talk) 01:38, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 May 2021

– Two weeks ago, Veverve made all of the moves proposed here and then listed the old titles for deletion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 7#Other lists of Catholic saints. Those moves met with significant controversy, so I requested that they be reverted and opened this discussion. Veverve made these moves because 1) the articles (by their own admission) list only Catholic saints, yet are at titles implying they are lists of all saints; 2) are not precise; and 3) are not standardized. Raised objections include that the proposed targets are a clunky compromise that is neither precise nor concise and that some of these areas have insignificant bodies of non-Catholic Christians who recognize saints. Personally, I support standardization of the titles but am neutral about the current proposals; I would like to hear feedback from others. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:17, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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